Move to safety: food, water, air, living space, mild weather

From: Ron

Useful article and all true.

A shorthand way of deciding where to live
is to find an area with little government dependence
given trillions in unpayable debt
and very high levels of transfer payments such as food assistance.

At some point obligations to dependent serfs with no job skills and limited abstract thinking will be inflated away
with a loss of purchasing power
or outright defaulted on.

When persons are hungry they go into a primal mode often referred to as “hunger brain” or reptilian mode.

This is where pillage and rape occur.

Leningrad and Stalingrad during WW2 are historical examples.

US large urban areas are overwhelmingly blue jurisdictions
where inhabitants have been encouraged to give up independent living skills in exchange for political patronage
and table scraps.

Preppers ridiculed.

Independent living skills discouraged by zoning restrictions.

Ideally during these times US citizens should be organized into public works projects like the WPA during the Great Depression
where food and lodging were given in exchange for infrastructure work.

All for the common good of the country.

The huge difference now
debt aside
is that politically one side is actively attempting to destroy Americans and any nationalistic cohesion.

Many Americans lack critical thinking skills to decipher this.

There are already casualties from China and Globalists’ asymmetrical warfare against Americans.

Fentanyl and
high starch junk foods,
and cell radiation have destroyed working and and military capabilities.

Just my take,


On Wed, May 27, 2020, 7:13 AM joe

I started studying geography in elementary school, memorizing maps. Buy statistics books, economics books.
What does your region produce?

Without food, water, air you will die fast.
Most areas:
the air and water is polluted.
Most food for sale is junk food.
Delivered over long supply lines.
In danger of shutdown.

Minor virus hype fake news pandemic.
Politics shut down USA.
Sheeple run out of money, no food.
Sheeple lined up at food lines for free food, complete deflation.

Communists can see how to cripple USA economy, your life support system. Pandemics will happen again.
Maybe this year.
Move immediately to a safe location.

Many apartments are being abandoned in USA as families huddle together. Resort towns, college towns, economy damaged, vacancies,…

Houses sit empty for sale, many will never sell if located in bad area.

Farm country mostly abandoned for 100 years, roofs caved in, walls falling down… Often high quality land very survivable
but may be pollution, pesticides,..
Look around to find the best options.

Many advantages to be near 1 big city as you get older.
Particularly medical services.
But many urban areas have too many people with few natural resources, food, water, air… or excessive heat or cold…
means a bad place that you may not be able to survive.

Las Vegas the worst – too much heat easily fatal, no food, tourist economy will bounce back slow, may never come back 100% May be real cheap condos and apartments but you may not survive there.

Phoenix too hot and not much food produced in the whole state of Arizona.

Fresno does have some food but pesticides, bad air quality, excessive heat… Not enough food for the large numbers of people being settled on the farm land.

Most of California is too crowded, far overpopulated
with too many invaders speaking languages you cannot understand, and they do not like you.
A disaster waiting to happen as planned by elites.

North California and the mountains are too rugged – no way in or out, no food. Just gangs with guns growing marijuana and shooting at anything that moves.

Oregon may be better, does have fruit trees, farming, seafood, and some roads and towns.
Mild weather and great air quality along the coast needing no air conditioner or heater. Pacific ocean breezes constant temperature clean air a huge benefit!

Oregon gets wetter and cooler as you get farther north.
Watch out for molds, fungus, indoor air pollution….
Not so expensive because lack of sun killed off most naive people who moved in, and bad economy causes poverty, drugs, despair, overdoses, indoor TV diseases….
There are some jobs for those who can take the cool and fog and can avoid addiction. Oregon will never get crowded with too many people.
Oregon has been abandoned like other farming regions.
1 big urban area has been growing but maybe not too fast and not as screwed up as California.
Parts of Washington state are also ok, probably, but not too close to Seattle that is as bad as California.

Other parts of USA are better, overall.
Lack of knowledge of statistics leads people to live in non-survivable areas.

Minneapolis is the capitol of food production in the world.
Lake Superior is the largest fresh water lake in the world.
Huge farmland and lakes all around from Ohio to Texas up into Canada.
Most farm areas have declining population or slow growing with reasonable prices. And good universities, medical and services in some parts of each state.

Amid the Covid-19 hysteria and global shutdown,
the drawbacks of living in a big city have become more apparent.

Sure, cities can offer more career opportunities.
Still, they are also more expensive,
have higher levels of crime,
have fragile supply lines,
and infrastructure that can get easily overwhelmed.

What if there were no fuel to heat houses?
People in the country can find a way to survive,
but in the city, you have no options.
Many would die without heat.

But first, they’d become desperate and
desperate people are a threat to your well-being.

a city riot.
A riot isn’t merely a crime spree;
it’s random chaos,
fueled by anger and desperation.

They occur due to built-up tension that’s sparked off,
often by a “last straw” event.
Because they’re spontaneous,
mini-riots tend to pop up all over the city like popcorn.
And they’re uncontrollable.
When the sirens are heard,
rioters may disburse,
but as soon as the police drive on to the next neighbourhood, the rioters start in again.

Riots are similar to guerilla warfare,
except that they have no organization whatsoever.

They are high on anger and
low on reason
very dangerous.

For someone living in a city who’s hoping to be left in peace, there’s no chance of that in a riot.

Sooner or later, you have to go out,
and when you do,
you may become a casualty.

Those two occurrences provided me with the important lesson that, whilst cities are very attractive in good times,
you want to be well out of them in a chaotic period.

What are some risks of living in a city during a prolonged crisis?

One of the greatest attractions of a city is that, all around you, there are small businesses that do everything for you.
It’s wonderfully convenient.
As long as you can pay,
you can have anything.

The great advantage is that a host of others have control of everything you may need.

And, in a crisis, it’s that very condition that becomes your greatest danger.

You can’t remove yourself from the dependency on others and suddenly become self-reliant.

You have very little control over your surroundings and the services you need.

In a crisis,
the first locations to be hit with food shortages are cities, and you find you have no alternate supply of food.

You need the shops for your food.

You may need a laundromat to wash your clothes.

Your building has a central water supply,
gas supply
and electrical supply.

Your ability for self-reliance is very low indeed.

In a crisis,
none of the attractions of city life continue to have value.

The city becomes a liability.

How important is it to have a pleasant place to go to in the countryside or a small town?

It’s vital.
Your life may depend upon it.

Do you think there will be a trend of people moving out of cities? What are the implications?

We have literally thousands of years of history to look at when it comes to this question.

Historically, a small number of people will see the writing on the wall and arrange to have a bolt-hole
somewhere in a small town or in the country.

But the great majority will wait until the last minute and, when it comes time to make a run for it,
they may have no plan whatsoever.

So, we’ll see panic exits
—large numbers of people attempting to leave as a result of some ‘last-straw’ event.

It may be similar to the 1930s
– the Okies loading up their Model A trucks with their possessions and driving to California.

Only this time, it will be Montana,
and other rural places where the existing residents are known to be self-reliant.

And there are numerous problems with this idea.

First, there will need to be plenty of gas stations with ample fuel along the way, or you’ll never reach your destination.

Second, there may well be marauders along the way.
This, again, is historically the norm in such situations.

And, if you arrive at your destination,
you’ll find that those who had settled these areas want no part of the city-dwellers, who are descending upon them in droves.

Nor will they want to share the stores of food that they so carefully ferreted away in anticipation of a crisis.

Just as the Okies discovered,
the new arrivals will be quite unwelcome.

Do you perceive a different mindset amongst those who reside outside cities that makes them more desirable
as neighbours in a crisis?

Oh, definitely.
It’s not so true in the suburbs,
but those who choose to live in small towns and rural areas do, for the most part,
tend to be more self-reliant than city-dwellers.

And because,
in those areas,
neighbors are few
and don’t change often,
people get to know their neighbours personally,
and they become mutually reliant.
They form strong bonds,
which may help them through harder times.

This is not so true in a city,
where many people don’t even know the names of those in the apartment across the hall.

So, in a crisis,
you want rural people around you.

First, they’re unlikely to aggress against you, and

second, they may even help you and
share what they have with you, once they know you well.

But it does mean that you’d have to start early and earn your place amongst them.

What do you look for in an ideal “bug out“ location?

Three things:
stable government;
good neighbours;
ample food and water.

I have homes in several countries so that,
if one proves to have been a poor choice as a bolthole,
I have other options.

In assessing each of those countries,
I first wanted to know that the government had a history of political stability, not undergoing dramatic change from one leadership to another.

I also value governments that impose themselves as little as possible onto the lives of residents.
Any country that’s already in the habit of being overly-autocratic is only likely to get worse in a crisis.

As I described, having neighbours that are unlikely to become a liability to you is another essential.

In considering each of my homes, I asked myself,
“How do these people treat each other?” and
“How would they behave in a crisis?”

And, finally, it’s advisable to choose locations that have an abundance of food and water.

If there are already farms all around you, wonderful.

However, if this doesn’t exist
— that is, if most food is imported
— you’d want to either establish a farm or, at the very least, stockpile food that could carry you for a while.

I don’t doubt that, over the next few years,
we’ll be seeing a breakdown in the availability of food in some countries, and those locations would be the worst of choices.

However, even in countries where food delivery is likely to be good, there may be interruptions from time to time,
so a month’s backup food storage would be advisable,
no matter where you plan to be.

Any final points that should be considered?

Only that we’ve just begun a period that will evolve into what may be the crisis of our lifetimes.

There’s no guarantee that one reader out there will be luckier than another and will fare better.

In such times,
the likelihood of very major unrest and shortages is high enough that it would be quite unwise to just “wait and see what happens,” or
“hope for the best.”

Those who prepare are less likely to become casualties of the coming crisis.

I wouldn’t want to be locked into a city residence once the fur begins to fly.

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